Y'know... I started writing a reply to this entry - partially a response to this blog and to Mike's blog over at notestips (you guys talk to each other this morning or something?!?)
I'm not going to bash anyone here... but take this into consideration:
Since we're not really getting the marketing support from the vendor (I can't tell you when I last saw an advertisement for Domino/Lotus Notes that wasn't already IN a Domino/Lotus Notes-based publishing), it's really up to us - the Dominoids.
In Bernard's example... why not simply develop the portal that they were looking for FOR them as an example of what could be done with the product? Show them and offer the template at a "reduced rate" from what you currently bill - get'em hooked and show them that they already have the technology that's needed to get the job done and get it done (to boot) at a fraction of the cost/time. Simply put, you're keeping Domino seats at a Domino shop while giving yourself a re-occurring revenue stream.
The problem is though, most of us won't do this. We'd rather sit back and complain that Websphere, or Sharepoint, or some wannabe developer who read that mySQL/PHP is the best thing in the world after he checked out the latest article on slashdot is trying to invade *our* turf.
To quote Jack from "A Few Good Men":
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
If you're kicking ass, taking names and showing the CIOs, IT Managers and User community that Domino is an invaluable tool AND constantly integrating this tool with new and exciting things... then I doubt anyone's gonna start looking for different solution.
Last item... don't be an ostrich about new technologies - get them under your belt if for nothing other than something to integrate into your Domino development practices. You can also look to the way another product, etc actually does something and try to adopt that in Domino - it's more than likely very possible and certainly makes you a better developer than those in the over saturated markets that simply read the Help file and the whitepapers that Lotus/IBM publish.
Y'know... I started writing a reply to this entry - partially a response to this blog and to Mike's blog over at notestips (you guys talk to each other this morning or something?!?)
I'm not going to bash anyone here... but take this into consideration:
Since we're not really getting the marketing support from the vendor (I can't tell you when I last saw an advertisement for Domino/Lotus Notes that wasn't already IN a Domino/Lotus Notes-based publishing), it's really up to us - the Dominoids.
In Bernard's example... why not simply develop the portal that they were looking for FOR them as an example of what could be done with the product? Show them and offer the template at a "reduced rate" from what you currently bill - get'em hooked and show them that they already have the technology that's needed to get the job done and get it done (to boot) at a fraction of the cost/time. Simply put, you're keeping Domino seats at a Domino shop while giving yourself a re-occurring revenue stream.
The problem is though, most of us won't do this. We'd rather sit back and complain that Websphere, or Sharepoint, or some wannabe developer who read that mySQL/PHP is the best thing in the world after he checked out the latest article on slashdot is trying to invade *our* turf.
To quote Jack from "A Few Good Men":
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
If you're kicking ass, taking names and showing the CIOs, IT Managers and User community that Domino is an invaluable tool AND constantly integrating this tool with new and exciting things... then I doubt anyone's gonna start looking for different solution.
Last item... don't be an ostrich about new technologies - get them under your belt if for nothing other than something to integrate into your Domino development practices. You can also look to the way another product, etc actually does something and try to adopt that in Domino - it's more than likely very possible and certainly makes you a better developer than those in the over saturated markets that simply read the Help file and the whitepapers that Lotus/IBM publish.
Sorry for the long-winded entry there Jake!
-Chris