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  1. yes you are right Jake (as usual), that charts are probably the really practically useful thing for SVG, and that things I've suggested, and things on SVGspider aren't reallly of any immediate and obvious use, but then do you remember when Javascript first was introduced? For the longest time it seems that all people ever did with it were these stupid rollover images, which are retarded because in the real world a button reacts to being *pressed* not to having a hand hover over it. But you (and many others) find Javascript useful.

    But to discover useful things, sometimes you need to temporarily ignore the whole question of whether it is useful. In the example of SVGspider (which I think is very cool, as long as you keep in mind that it's just trying to demonstrate that you *can* do a whole site in SVG, not that you necessarily would *want* to) it serves to demonstrate the possibilities. Only once you have a concept of the possibilities can you find creative uses for them. So a lot of what comes first is a lot of useless experiments with what the technology can do.

    If you have ever seen the some of the nonsense that Hollywood put out when it was intoxicated with the new capability of COLOR film, you'll see the parallels. Of course the experiments shouldn't necessarily be *published* but they need to be done. Hollywood did a lot of drivel (worse than their current drivel) which had no value other than the fact that it was in color. SVGspider has little value other than the fact that it is in color--er, I mean: SVG.

    So from a practical point of view I agree with you entirely, but sometimes it pays to set aside practicality. Charts may be extremely useful, and may turn out to be the only really useful thing for SVG, but I'm not going to assume that just yet. It's best not to get tunnel vision. That's all.

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