I have to say, a lot if interesting discussion the last few days. :)
However, I do feel that since domino is so tightly woven with it's datamodel and design, it is very hard to really design a framework that effectively separates logic into for example an MVC pattern. One way of doing this would be to use XML and XSLT as someone mentioned, or special tag libraries. But then you loose much of what makes Domino usable as a web platform in the first place, the tight integration, and you might as well choose something better suited, like Rails, or Spring/Hibernate.
What makes more sense to me is to look at forms as a display technology, and wqo agents as where application logic goes. This does work to a certain extent, and does give a reasonable separation, but of course I do wish that IBM would do some things to make it better. Making formulas evaluate after wqo would be one thing, but also being able to make formulas access script libraries (or even custom formula functions) would enable reusable tag libraries.
I have to say, a lot if interesting discussion the last few days. :)
However, I do feel that since domino is so tightly woven with it's datamodel and design, it is very hard to really design a framework that effectively separates logic into for example an MVC pattern. One way of doing this would be to use XML and XSLT as someone mentioned, or special tag libraries. But then you loose much of what makes Domino usable as a web platform in the first place, the tight integration, and you might as well choose something better suited, like Rails, or Spring/Hibernate.
What makes more sense to me is to look at forms as a display technology, and wqo agents as where application logic goes. This does work to a certain extent, and does give a reasonable separation, but of course I do wish that IBM would do some things to make it better. Making formulas evaluate after wqo would be one thing, but also being able to make formulas access script libraries (or even custom formula functions) would enable reusable tag libraries.
regards,
Bjorn Cintra