An Alternative To LotusSphere

As an alternative to LotusSphere this year I thought I'd give you a week's worth of posts about ASP.NET. A bit like how Channel 4 do the Alternative Queen's speech each Christmas.

Not just for the sake of it. Nor just to ruffle feathers. The timing could actually be a good thing. The people who really don't want to read it are all in the one place and unlikely to read. It can be our dirty secret while they're away.

I might start it tomorrow. Before then I need to decide how to approach it and what to cover. By the end of it I hope to provide a downloadable "solution" package that represents my current way of working.

I'm not saying the way I work is the best way. That's for you to decide.

As part of the "course" I'll be talking about C# and object-based development, which has been a complete revelation to me and something I'm loving every minute of.

Any takers?


  1. Yep will be very interested.

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    • Jon
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 10:25 AM

    Yes, looking forward to it.

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    • Jono
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 10:34 AM

    Wicked, I'm up for it. Who likes Florida anyway?! All that sea and sun... ;)

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    • Bill
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 10:46 AM

    Very interested. We did some windows service - web service consumer stuff for AD directory management. Very nice.

    Would be cool to see how to implement a web service server, and a 'hello world' web site.. ;)

    ---* Bill

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    • Jason Hook
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 10:52 AM

    I will be all ears.....

    I'm working my way through Headfirst c#, and it seems quite familiar after Java

  2. I would love to see that. I need to move in a new direction and this could be the one for me.

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    • Gregg Eldred
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 11:25 AM

    And here I thought you were going to talk about ILUG, UKLUG, MWLUG, IamLUG, TriStateLUG, DNUG, and so on. :-) As always, you write it, I'll read it. Even though I am not a developer (unless you count the occasional @Formula in Lotus), I love learning more about stuff, and you have great "stuff."

  3. All ears here. It would be cool to see if and how you've gone about handling xml, xslt + xpath. With Bill on webservice as well. The class I took had the official .NET way of doing it but it seemed really canned. Hm... what else. I think you've covered logging already but seeing it integrated would be nice... your preferred way of using a config.xml or data source for configuration... doing any JSON serialization?

    If it's not LotusSphere, what is it . .NETaHedron?

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      • Jake Howlett
      • Thu 27 Jan 2011 02:51 PM

      Hmm. Not done any of that ASP.NET yet. Sure it's a breeze though, so I'll try and cover it, if not just to prove how amazingly simple everything is with .net

  4. I'm definitely interested in anything you want to talk about.

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    • Lionel Conforto
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 01:28 PM

    I agree about object design. It's so attractive that it can make you addict, especially if you dive into the design patterns. I am more familiar with Java and J2EE but I will pay attention to your serie about ASP for sure. Thanks.

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      • Joel
      • Thu 27 Jan 2011 09:46 PM

      To tie this comment to the above one mentioning Head First, the Head First Design Patterns is an excellent book. I haven't actually bought it yet. I did, however, read the entire book from cover to cover at Books-a-Million about two weeks ago. It's now on my buy list.

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    • Alex
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 02:04 PM

    And with some Flex stuff too?!

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      • Jake Howlett
      • Thu 27 Jan 2011 02:49 PM

      Probably not. What the backend is doesn't really change what Flex can do.

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    • Nick
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 02:51 PM

    If you want to go to Florida, there is 'DevConnections' at the end of March...It is where this Notes Developer went and got assimilated into the Microsoft Borg.

  5. what about some insights on your work with Sharepoint ?

  6. I'll be following. I've done an introductory ASP.NET course, but it was very focused on the front end and Visual Studio. It seemed a bit like basic Domino form development as far as front end went. I looked at all the widgets & the code that is generated & the constant post-backs & some of them evoked the response: "Yuck - this is like Domino 4.6".

    I was really interested by the back-end stuff & data objects (although missed the document-level security) and look forward seeing how to apply it to some more realistic tasks than what is generally given in these sorts of course.

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      • Jake Howlett
      • Fri 28 Jan 2011 12:39 AM

      Oh dear. I hope I've not set expectations too high.

      Not sure I'll cover things like document-level security, as all I've done so far on that is a basic "did the same user opening this page also create it, if not redirect" security.

      Until you tame ASP it can seem a lot like Domino (all versions, not just 4.6) in the way it spews out loads of JavaScript. I'll try and touch on how to tame it.

      Realistic tasks? I was going to create a website for a zoo ;o) Unless you have a more realistic example. A wine store?

      Show the rest of this thread

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    • GCT
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 08:40 PM

    looking forward to it!!!

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    • Aaron
    • Thu 27 Jan 2011 09:39 PM

    Sweet! I have taken over IT management for our Florida plant and their intranet site is asp.net. It was never finished so I will need to start finishing it at some point. Perfect timing to get started.

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    • Rishi
    • Fri 28 Jan 2011 01:48 AM

    waiting :)

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    • Martin
    • Fri 28 Jan 2011 03:26 AM

    Looking forward to it here, too.

  7. Go for it.

    We'll be watching.


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    • Anonymous
    • Mon 31 Jan 2011 10:07 AM

    For a guy who is describing himself as a Webdeveleper (and not for a specific technology) why would you mind your time specific on one technology ? instead of using a helicopter view and try to create solutions and write/blog about how you did made and found these solutions. If you aks me ... with these kind of blog article I would more describe you as a MS/ASP/.NET dev then as a Global WebDeveloper.

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