An Alternative To LotusSphere
As an alternative to LotusSphere this year I thought I'd give you a week's worth of posts about ASP.NET. A bit like how Channel 4 do the Alternative Queen's speech each Christmas.
Not just for the sake of it. Nor just to ruffle feathers. The timing could actually be a good thing. The people who really don't want to read it are all in the one place and unlikely to read. It can be our dirty secret while they're away.
I might start it tomorrow. Before then I need to decide how to approach it and what to cover. By the end of it I hope to provide a downloadable "solution" package that represents my current way of working.
I'm not saying the way I work is the best way. That's for you to decide.
As part of the "course" I'll be talking about C# and object-based development, which has been a complete revelation to me and something I'm loving every minute of.
Any takers?
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Yep will be very interested.
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Yes, looking forward to it.
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Wicked, I'm up for it. Who likes Florida anyway?! All that sea and sun... ;)
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Very interested. We did some windows service - web service consumer stuff for AD directory management. Very nice.
Would be cool to see how to implement a web service server, and a 'hello world' web site.. ;)
---* Bill
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I will be all ears.....
I'm working my way through Headfirst c#, and it seems quite familiar after Java
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I would love to see that. I need to move in a new direction and this could be the one for me.
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And here I thought you were going to talk about ILUG, UKLUG, MWLUG, IamLUG, TriStateLUG, DNUG, and so on. :-) As always, you write it, I'll read it. Even though I am not a developer (unless you count the occasional @Formula in Lotus), I love learning more about stuff, and you have great "stuff."
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All ears here. It would be cool to see if and how you've gone about handling xml, xslt + xpath. With Bill on webservice as well. The class I took had the official .NET way of doing it but it seemed really canned. Hm... what else. I think you've covered logging already but seeing it integrated would be nice... your preferred way of using a config.xml or data source for configuration... doing any JSON serialization?
If it's not LotusSphere, what is it . .NETaHedron?
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Hmm. Not done any of that ASP.NET yet. Sure it's a breeze though, so I'll try and cover it, if not just to prove how amazingly simple everything is with .net
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I'm definitely interested in anything you want to talk about.
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I agree about object design. It's so attractive that it can make you addict, especially if you dive into the design patterns. I am more familiar with Java and J2EE but I will pay attention to your serie about ASP for sure. Thanks.
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To tie this comment to the above one mentioning Head First, the Head First Design Patterns is an excellent book. I haven't actually bought it yet. I did, however, read the entire book from cover to cover at Books-a-Million about two weeks ago. It's now on my buy list.
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And with some Flex stuff too?!
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Probably not. What the backend is doesn't really change what Flex can do.
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If you want to go to Florida, there is 'DevConnections' at the end of March...It is where this Notes Developer went and got assimilated into the Microsoft Borg.
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what about some insights on your work with Sharepoint ?
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I'll be following. I've done an introductory ASP.NET course, but it was very focused on the front end and Visual Studio. It seemed a bit like basic Domino form development as far as front end went. I looked at all the widgets & the code that is generated & the constant post-backs & some of them evoked the response: "Yuck - this is like Domino 4.6".
I was really interested by the back-end stuff & data objects (although missed the document-level security) and look forward seeing how to apply it to some more realistic tasks than what is generally given in these sorts of course.
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Oh dear. I hope I've not set expectations too high.
Not sure I'll cover things like document-level security, as all I've done so far on that is a basic "did the same user opening this page also create it, if not redirect" security.
Until you tame ASP it can seem a lot like Domino (all versions, not just 4.6) in the way it spews out loads of JavaScript. I'll try and touch on how to tame it.
Realistic tasks? I was going to create a website for a zoo ;o) Unless you have a more realistic example. A wine store?
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Hi Jake
No unrealistic expectations here - how to start taming it is where I need to be
Now I have to say that I was sent on the course by my company two months ago, and I haven't even had time to install visual studio on my work laptop yet due to ongoing projects.
I guess when I did the course, I was just surprised that I would have to start by taming it. Given how much the supporters of the two platforms seem to despise the 'other side', I was expecting more differences than I found. There are obvious strengths and weaknesses of each platform, but I think overall I found more similarities than I expected (with xPages more than traditional Domino perhaps).
So I'm looking forward to some useful examples of how to take the next steps, as I am still trying to get my head around the best ways to get started.
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Zoo please....
Not the dreaded Winec!!!(Sharepoint training I seem to remember)
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looking forward to it!!!
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Sweet! I have taken over IT management for our Florida plant and their intranet site is asp.net. It was never finished so I will need to start finishing it at some point. Perfect timing to get started.
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waiting :)
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Looking forward to it here, too.
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Go for it.
We'll be watching.
.::AleX::.
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For a guy who is describing himself as a Webdeveleper (and not for a specific technology) why would you mind your time specific on one technology ? instead of using a helicopter view and try to create solutions and write/blog about how you did made and found these solutions. If you aks me ... with these kind of blog article I would more describe you as a MS/ASP/.NET dev then as a Global WebDeveloper.
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