Rounding up...

I started out this week with the goal of simplifying my online existence a little. I failed. The only difference now is that I have a new mail client for all my none-codestore mail (the first of the steps required to phase out the iBook). For now I will have to accept that email is not simple. Until I own my own server I will have to juggle lots of POP3 accounts. Not to mention address books all over the place!

The Notes client might not be the perfect mail application but it's got its virtues. The one thing I love about Notes mail is replication. Wherever I go I always know that my whole inbox is available. I can sync it with whatever desktop I am using and easily make backups as it's just one .nsf file. The same can't be said of most other mail accounts, although .mac accounts come close. Mac mail is stored centrally and the Mail.app "replicates" with the server. In fact it goes one better than Notes because it syncs unread marks and even replied/forwarded flags with the server. If you read a mail in the browser, when it's synced with the client, it's marked as read. A feature Notes mail could well do with. Having spent most of the week thinking about it I can see that my perfect email setup is a mix-and-match of all the systems I currently use.

So, for the time being I will have to soldier on. My goal now is to find a decent Spam solution for my Domino server. As we speak I am installing no.spam.domino, courtesy of Darren Crocker. Some time soon I hope to get to test Postini, which Prominic are currently preparing as part of their hosted packages. Any other ideas are welcome. The only thing I can't do is install anything on the OS of the server.

If all else fails I will just have to change my email address...


  1. Replied/forwarded flags are in the Notes 6.5 mail template - much lige the openntf.org template.

    On Notes 6.5 there is a database property for handling replication of unread-marks (replicate: never/clustered servers/all servers).

    My experience with these:

    The forward/reply-code works ok.

    I still have problems replicating unread marks properly.

    As to spam... We have been using the Domino DNS Blacklist filters for some time at work. They seem to work nicely. Our mail users are reporting that they are receiving almost no spam after having implemented the filter. We are rejcecting approximately 15% of all inbound mail. It has its limitations though.

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    • Craig
    • Fri 28 Nov 2003 04:40

    I'm pretty sure R6.5 is supposed to replicate unread marks, and for once, I'm pretty sure I didn't just dream it! :¬)

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    • noon
    • Fri 28 Nov 2003 04:58

    Remember the time when 'you have new mail' notification really ment it? Now it's more like 'you have new spam'.

    Thank God my company did install some spam filters (or something else??). Now the 'you have new mail' starts to mean what it supposed to ... again!! Jihaa ... :)

    Thanks Jake for the wonderful site.

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    • vowe
    • Fri 28 Nov 2003 06:32

    Mail.app can do the same with your Domino mail file via IMAP.

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    • vowe
    • Fri 28 Nov 2003 06:35

    And are you really, really sure that Mail.app does not set your from address correctly when you have a multiple account setup AND you open the specific inbox (not the combined one).

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    • Jake
    • Fri 28 Nov 2003 07:09

    Volker, Mail.app does indeed reply with the right account. But that doesn't suit my needs. I have one account that collects mail to about 20 domains. It only allows me to reply to all these domains with one email address.

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    • Dirk
    • Fri 28 Nov 2003 08:19

    Postini works great! Adding up it's cost and the little time we spend administering it, it is a very good bargin. May not be what everyone is looking for, but we like it.

    Infoworld has a good review of some solutions.


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    • Lee
    • Sat 29 Nov 2003 04:22

    KSPAM, released freely to OpenNTF.org has been chugging away for my org. for several months now, and aside from ever newfangled ways to mis-spell V!ag5a, it's made a huge difference.

    But it keeps getting more hip to those mis-spellings too, as time goes on. It's free, open-source, and I give my profound thanks to it's developer.

    It's a Domino server task, so no special firewall or or port configs are required; however some simple, custom Domino mods on user mail templates, buttons and actions mostly, enhance users' spam reporting ease.

  2. I just got a spam filter for 550 people up and running at work. I looked at what was out there, weighed up hosted service vs product and I plumped for Easylink SpamWatch. It's basically DNS Blacklists + SpamAssassin with a *very* simple web interface. It's at least 3 times cheaper than Postini, but doesn't do virus scanning or quarantine. Easylink also have a more fully-featured service called MailWatch which does the virus stuff too.

    SpamWatch is US-based and costs us $0.50 per user per month + $250 one-time setup. I don't know if there's a minimum amount per domain though (it would be logical).

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    • Heini
    • Sat 29 Nov 2003 11:24


    Thunderbird is open-source and you can submit a feature request. If you get enough supporters chances are high that someone will implement it for you. I remember that I submitted a feature request for filezilla (ftp). It was implemented 30 days later.

    If you really need it give it a try.



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    • Matt
    • Sun 30 Nov 2003 21:30

    Why not use Notes for all your email. I sue it to pull email from several pop accounts. Been working great for years.

    Also, the blacklist feture has been working great also.

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