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	<title>Reply from Jake Howlett</title>
	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 07:54:56 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Jake Howlett</author>
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		<p>Hi Emilio,</p>
		<p>Yes, business is better this year than last (it couldn't have gotten any worse ;-)</p>
		<p>Who pays the bills? It's not a simple question, but I guess the simple answer is "Still Domino"</p>

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	<title>Reply from Emilio</title>
	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:11:55 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Emilio</author>
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		<p>5 stars hotel at  Spain sun? The business are going better Jake?</p>
		<p>IT is good to read that! </p>
		<p>Please be honest , who pay the bill?  Lotus domino,  Sharepoint or mobile Jobs?</p>
		<p>Keep moving!!</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jerry Carter</title>
	<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:27:26 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Jerry Carter</author>
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		<p>Using TracFone, and so far so good.  No monthly fee, just have to activate once a year with purchase of minutes.  Can get some pretty good deals - they have double and triple life-time perk cards you can buy which really make for a great deal when you buy 1500 minutes.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Paul Farris</title>
	<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:58:10 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Paul Farris</author>
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		<p>I normally untick "data roaming" in the mobile network menu then try to use wifi when possible. Then fail by turning it back on to quickly check my email and get hit by everything trying to sync :-)</p>

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	<title>Reply from RobShaver</title>
	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:27:12 -0500</pubDate>
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		<p>For me, it's not the roaming ... it's the monthly fee.</p>
		<p>I've got a dumb (feature) phone which is off most of the time. I only take calls by appointment such as when my wife is due to arrive at the airport. Phone cost $12 and the plan costs about $100/year.</p>
		<p>There's a new pay-as-you-go company, Ting (<a rel="nofollow" href="https://ting.com/plans">https://ting.com/plans</a>). They charge you a flat $6/month. Then you add on the minutes, SMS and data you use each month. They charge separably for each of the three categories. So if you don't use any SMS in a month ... no charge.</p>
		<p>And the charge are cheaper than my pre-paid and I could get a smart phone too. (Have to buy it from them, though, and the choices are somewhat limited and not subsidized.)</p>
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		<p>Not in Europe yet and doesn't solve the roaming issue but to me it makes more sense to pay for what I use as long as the price is reasonable.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Julian Buss</title>
	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:23:21 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Julian Buss</author>
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		<p>how funny that there are still people laughing at me when I tell them how super important it is that mobile business Apps can sync data to the device so that they can work offline. </p>
		<p>Your experience and the comments just support my opinion - data roaming is still a mess, less a mess in the EU, but still only a small gap from being criminal... and really, I don't see that this will change in the foreseeable future. </p>
		<p>If you're out of your country and need data traffic, you're doomed or you need to use a prepaid card. </p>
		<p>For that reason, I fail to see what mobile web apps that need a decent network connection are good for. But that's a different story. </p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake Howlett</title>
	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:13:06 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Jake Howlett</author>
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		<p>Ouch. </p>
		<p>I love how the phone makers advertise them as though we live in a new world where businessy-type people dash from country to country with all the services then rely on always at there fingertips.  When the reality is that roaming is prohibitively expensive and a decent wifi connection a pain to find.</p>
		<p>Last time I was in London I'd gotten a bit disorientated so thought I'd use my S2 to find me a Tube station. Not only could I not get GPS my data connection was too flaky. In the end I gave up and just wandered around until I found a station. Old ways are best some times.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Timothy Briley</title>
	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:40:01 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Timothy Briley</author>
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		<p>I live in the US and have a company BB and a personal Galaxy S, both on AT&T. But I'm typing this from my company's office in Frankfurt. We got a data plan for the BB, $30US for 50 MB, but didn't for the Galaxy S, so it's at $20US for a single MB!</p>
		<p>As a result I've keep the Galaxy S in "Airplane" mode since the plane left Atlanta. In this mode it can still do WiFi. But the only place I've found with WiFi outside of the office and the hotel room is O'Reilly's so my Galaxy S has pretty much been useless this week.</p>
		<p>And with 50 MB needing to last me a week, I'm not using my BB nearly as much outside the office as usual.</p>
		<p>$20 for 1 MB without a plan. What a racket.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake Howlett</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:25:30 -0500</pubDate>
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		<p>Most are. But even deselecting it had no effect. Also, without an internet/data connection you can't even see your apps in Google Play (see above screenshot). The only way was to turn data roaming on and then quickly(!) open Play to see what was updating and deselect auto-update - only to find it had no effect.</p>
		<p>Regardless of that I'd like to think that the global preference of only updating over wifi would negate the need to do this. </p>

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	<title>Reply from Gerald Mengisen</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:21:58 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Gerald Mengisen</author>
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		<p>Jake, check if your apps are set to "allow automatic updating ". It's a checkbox for each app in Google Play.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake Howlett</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:14:14 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Jake Howlett</author>
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		<p>Yeah. I was surprised to come back to a house. All those horror stories about teens announcing a small gathering to a small groups on Facebook only to find 100s of drunk kids destroying the house. Luckily her and her bf are very trustworthy and sensible. </p>
		<p>Quinn opted for a 4 day break in Rome with said bf instead. It's not that we left her out on purpose of course.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Aaron Hardin</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:01:39 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Aaron Hardin</author>
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		<p>So that's why I haven't had any good reading material lately, you've been on vacation living it up!! While we're stuck here pounding the keyboard. Man, some guys have it made :)</p>
		<p>Glad you guys had a good time.</p>
		<p>LOL - I just realized you said the 5 of you, poor Quinn got left at home</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake Howlett</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:41:55 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Jake Howlett</author>
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		<p>That tweet was of course tongue in cheek. Even if the data were 4G and all-inclusive I'd still have avoided use of phone. A holiday should be a holiday in my books - where you get a break from what you do back at home. I tried to give Karen as much time off as I could (she complained of an achy shoulder towards the end which I suspect is a case of "Kindle Shoulder") and I spent a *lot* of time with the kids, which was great. Good to be back at work though ;-)</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake Howlett</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:38:43 -0500</pubDate>
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		<p>Florida or Paris? When travelling outside the EU there's currently no limit to what phone companies can charge for roaming data use. Ouch.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake Howlett</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:36:17 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Jake Howlett</author>
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		<p>I noticed the provider I had while away was "MoviStar TESCO" so maybe they have a special agreement and only offer the higher charing telcos the 4G network. Probably not, but I do love a good conspiracy theory.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jerry Carter</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:36:05 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Jerry Carter</author>
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		<p>This sort of nonsense is precisely why I switched to a prepaid phone.  It makes calls reliably and is cheaper than using the house phone when staying in a hotel.  Roaming almost doesn't exist in the US now that most vendors have gone to nation-wide coverage but 13 years back, I too was stung with a $100+ cellular bill just driving from Michigan to Kentucky for a weekend to see my future wife.  That was with Verizon and old old cell networks.  </p>
		<p>I did like your tweet, though: forced to spend time with family.  Good boy.  ;-)</p>

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	<title>Reply from Ed Maloney</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:34:54 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Ed Maloney</author>
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		<p>Look at the bright side Jake, at least you weren't at Disney.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Thomas</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:25:37 -0500</pubDate>
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		<p>I would suggest to get a local prepaid sim next time. I'm using masmovil when in spain, they charge 3ct/MB (Eurocent that is). And I think Tesco is the one who's ripping you off. Quite a few telcos from germany charge about 50ct/MB when roaming in Europe, so movistar could hardly charge them more than that.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Darren</title>
	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:09:00 -0500</pubDate>
	<author>Darren</author>
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		<p>Never been to Punta Prima but it's just along the coast from Binibequer which we know well. The in-laws have a villa long the coast at Son Bou.</p>
		<p>Anyway, indeed, it's a rip-off. Okay, these telephone companies have invested in infrastructure, but the prices involved when you roam are worse than ridiculous. It's just greed. This is another one of those occasions where you think if they made the price reasonable then more people would use it rather than just turning roaming off.</p>

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