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	<title>Reply from Jake</title>
	<pubDate>Tue, 3 Oct 2006 03:23:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Jake</author>
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		<p>Thanks for the feedback guys. Looks like I'll leave it on the homepage, but rethink its content at some point and think about a way to flag out-dated methods as such.</p>
		<p>Ron. Articles are already categorised by area if you go to the article section the links are on the right. Although they seem pointless to me.</p>
		<p>I've got your db but not had time to look yet. It's flagged in my inbox for attention.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Adam</title>
	<pubDate>Tue, 3 Oct 2006 03:17:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Adam</author>
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		<p>Jake, it seems from the posts that a lot of people still search for and use the articles. Therefore, could you add a 'Recommend This Article' button under the Feedback section of each article which records a count and then when an article has been recommended, or recommended a certain number of times, it features on the homepage under the 'Articles Re-Visited' or 'Recommended Articles'. It should keep the homepage fresh and also less work you (in the long run).</p>

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	<title>Reply from Ron Yuen</title>
	<pubDate>Tue, 3 Oct 2006 02:42:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Ron Yuen</author>
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		<p>Jake</p>
		<p>As many (all ?) have said. Leave the articles in and available, but by all means re-do their presentation / access</p>
		<p>The title can certainly be changed, why not make it just 'The Archive' or 'The Attic' (if that's where you keep all your old junk ...)</p>
		<p>Whilst you're about it and since you have such a lot of spare time why not provide a simple up front categorisation of old articles eg</p>
		<p>Lotuscript [10]</p>
		<p>Javascript [9]</p>
		<p>etc</p>
		<p>OK ! Don't hit me (:-)</p>
		<p>To deal with those articles that you feel are irrelevant these days then include an *outdated technique* or *depracated* category.</p>
		<p>I'm sure you've not written anything that you are actually ashamed of and wish you hadn't, but if you have then join the club. The difference is that most of us don't leave our embarassment in public view.</p>
		<p>Regards</p>
		<p>Ron</p>
		<p>PS Did you get a chance to look at the editing Domino HTML forms demo ? If anyone else would like to look at it then they can email me at</p>
		<p>ryuen [at] rynet [dot] co [dot] uk and I'll pass it on.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Lake</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:48:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Lake</author>
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		<p>I'd say leave the Revisited link but also make your 'revisiting' to be a prominent comment posted to the article by you and which briefly expounds 'as of this date' as to your current thoughts about the technique, or why it may be relevant.</p>

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	<title>Reply from harkpabst_meliantrop</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:12:00 +0100</pubDate>
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		<p>Ben, your point is of course a valid one, but I think you didn't choose the best examples. By far the biggest problem on the net (form an information seeker's point of view) is outdated content that cannot be identified as such (or at least not easily). Again and again, it's amazing for me to see this even with commercial news providers. </p>
		<p>To me, the truth appears pretty simple: Everything, that has a date on it (In a clearly identifyable format, I should add. If unavoidable, even the odd american formatting will do.) can be considered helpfull to somebody at some point.</p>
		<p>So, as this criterion is easily met by all of Jakes articles, I still support the idea of presenting links to aging content in a prominent place. Be it hand-picked or by some inteligent randomizing.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jerry Carter</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:39:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Jerry Carter</author>
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		<p>Just want to add a vote for "keep" and second or third the suggestion to flag them as "worth reading" and then randomly pop them in on a daily or per visitor basis. I think that's the best way to meet your objectives of reminding people of the wealth of knowledge that is in here AND keep the irrelevent stuff beneath the surface.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Andy Davies</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:48:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Andy Davies</author>
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		<p>My first thought was, like many, to leave it in.  Just today I needed an article I remembered from your dim and distant past - "Remind Users to save their forms".  </p>
		<p>I wanted to see this because I'm doing something with PHP at work and it IS the only article I remember which, I hoped, did what I wanted - and it did.  I was going to ask you to mark this as this week's/month's article revisited, as since you wrote the article support for "onbeforeunload" events have been available to Firefox since 0.9.</p>
		<p>However, I figure if I can find it so can others.  Maybe if you still use aspects of articles you wrote years ago, you could link to them in your posts either to remind us that there are now better methods or that this is still a good way to go - maybe you could get us to vote for old articles we still refer to - I'm rambling.</p>
		<p>Who are we to tell you how you should structure your site - its yours, you're your client.</p>
		<p>From a user perspective, I always come to Codestore first, every morning. My problem is finding the snippet I was after, but mostly that's my memory not your search facility's fault.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Ben Langhinrichs</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:57:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Ben Langhinrichs</author>
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		<p>You do raise a very interesting question about "old" content that is going to become more important year after year.  Look at the Notes 4 & 5 forum and the Notes 6 & 7 forum, for example.  If there isn't some expiration, it becomes hard to know what is still valid.  This is a much bigger problem than just codestore's, as the web itself is starting to show layers of history but also sometimes provides really misleading stuff in searches.</p>
		<p>As for your site in particular, I would suggest you mark articles you think "worthy" of revisiting, then check them at least to the point of adding comments to say "Possibly superceded by AJAX techniques" or that sort of thing, "Only valid pre-Notes 7.0".  Then randomize the display (in all your spare time) in the Revisit section.</p>
		<p>Or, as you say, just remove the section.  It is your site, do as you will, but thanks for all the valuable content.</p>

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	<title>Reply from bill e</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:36:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>bill e</author>
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		<p>Jake,</p>
		<p>I say leave it in. I mean, occasionally as you grouse and say, "What a poor, poor man was I" when you see that old article, it's often good to see how much you've changed, and how far you (and us as a community) have come.</p>
		<p>Also, it's a great way for new visitors to your site to see that, wow, there's a lot of good info here! Start digging!</p>

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	<title>Reply from Andrew C</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:19:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Andrew C</author>
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		<p>Keep it!</p>
		<p>As for the randomisation of this selection, why not give yourself the ability to mark those articles that deserve airtime further on down the line.</p>
		<p>I've taken so much from your articles in the past, but I'm sure there's more that I don't have the time to look for. This might be a way of pushing little gems from the past to the front page now and again.</p>
		<p>Just a thought. Keep up the good work!</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:11:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Jake</author>
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		<p>Because there's too much irrelevant crap in here Jeff ;o)</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jeff Crossett</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:08:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Jeff Crossett</author>
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		<p>why not make it random selection of past articles?</p>

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	<title>Reply from Jake</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:28:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Jake</author>
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		<p>Thanks guys. Just to clarify - I'm not thinking so much of removing content (probably never will, as there's little point) but rather I am thinking of removing the Article Reisited  link from the homepage. Although now I;m having second thoughts.</p>

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	<title>Reply from harkpabst_meliantrop</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:25:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>harkpabst_meliantrop</author>
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		<p>Another vote for keep it! Maybe rename the section, but this stuff should not go away for several reasons.</p>
		<p>To catch your example, not so long ago I read a number of blog entries somewhere dealing with accessibility and JS free applications. Just can't remember the name of the site ...</p>
		<p>Furthermore, codestore is a great resource to starters as well. Praising how easy it is to implement drag 'n' drop doesn't help much, if someone just starts his programming career. Some simple but good style examples will help here.</p>
		<p>Add this to the fact that an article date of 2000 indeed DOES look cool and there you go.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Ed Maloney</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:15:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Ed Maloney</author>
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		<p>I use the old articles all the time.  If you want to get them off the site, perhaps you could keep them in a separate DB and provide a link to it.  Heck, I think you could burn them all to CD/DVD and sell it as Jake's Greatest Hits.</p>

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	<title>Reply from bh</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:43:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>bh</author>
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		<p>Hi</p>
		<p>Leave it in. There is a date on each of the articles. Let your visitors make the decision if the information is still valid for them or not.</p>
		<p>Thank you.</p>

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	<title>Reply from Dragon Cotterill</title>
	<pubDate>Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:33:00 +0100</pubDate>
	<author>Dragon Cotterill</author>
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		<p>Personally, I say leave it in.</p>
		<p>I occasionally see something there which catches my eye. How often do people go trawling through your archive of articles? Not many I suppose.</p>
		<p>It's amazing how often Codestore has come up when I've googled for a specific search term. I think that is how most people get to the articles.</p>
		<p>So leave the revisited section there. And leave the old articles in place as well. Although you could if you want add a "this has been superceded by..." entry to them.</p>

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