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Reply from Greg Evans

Greg Evans — Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:15:00 +0100

Gojal's reply is encouraging in one sense: that they are endevouring to achieve the "right" solution.

Referring to the improvements in e-Mail, Cal, etc. I think it's a bit late to get serious in this area. If only they had got really serious with ND6 and marketed the hell out of it as an e-Mail and Cal solution. Whilst the subject is dull the reason for picking Notes usually starts with its e-Mail functionality.

Reply from Axel.Janssen

Axel.Janssen — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:54:00 +0100

We can start a European Contest: Most weirdest IBM announcement regarding Workplace in our respective countries.

Here's german candidate

(my own translation from vowe interviewing Ambuj Gojal, published in a german it-mag):

VW: Are you going to integrate eclipse in notes or is it the other way round? At least, Eclipse is a framework for itself?

(this is a weird question, but now answer--> :-))

Gojal: You mean, what will be the container and what the Component? We still don't know. Should a view be a notes view and eclipse is the interaction-mechanism. Or shall Eclipse show the view and notes provides the data. Both is possible. The team works on both solutions. Its the result that matters: You are going to be able to run existing notes-applications out of the box.

:-)

Reply from Ken A Collins

Ken A Collins — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:43:00 +0100

I agree with Jake. There is a slew of usability improvements I'd like to see in Designer, yet every time Lotus announces what's coming in the next release (R7 now and I imagine the same when R8 beta is under way) all they talk about are changes to e-mail and calendaring. Groan!!

Ken

Reply from Brian Green

Brian Green — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:30:00 +0100

I'm really looking forward to the Eclipse-based tools. My only concern so far -- I hope there's still a robust @Formula language for "power users". They shouldn't need a computer science degree to create simple applications. That's a strength in Lotus Notes today!

Reply from Stephan H. Wissel

Stephan H. Wissel — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:13:00 +0100

No lah!

Good move....

My personal bet: R7 will see the end of the standalone Domino Designer. R8 Designer will be an Eclipse plug-in (I hope) or a Rational Developer plug-in (Eclipse superset, I guess). Finally a class browser, a superior code editor, a world class debugger.

For the UI: head over to Eclipse 3.1 and learn RCP. And that doen't stand for "Real Cluttered Programs". Can't wait to get started.

:-) stw

Reply from Scott Freeman

Scott Freeman — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:07:00 +0100

Whats with all the new interfaces being basic clones of Microsoft Office 2003? Far, far, far too much blue.

And all those windows and stuff - seems to be too complex just for the sheer heck of it to me.

Bah, I say.

Reply from Brett

Brett — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:57:00 +0100

With “Hannover” we’re expanding the Lotus Notes programming model in a way that allows components from other applications — or components created with J2EE or other development tools — to run within the Lotus Notes client, surrounded by the core Lotus Notes collaborative capabilities. In so doing we’re enabling a brand new class of Lotus Notes business applications.”

This comment seems interesting and spotting a screenshot with a graph in it looks promising..Would be good to get some good charts, gantts, and visual widgets without relying on the yucky applet / java support in the currently releases..